The latest round of protests against Sen. Lindsey Graham reached a fever pitch when he slammed Kentucky Sen. Rand Paul’s 13-hour filibuster last Wednesday. Graham's criticism prompted a vocal group of conservatives inside and outside the Palmetto State to think the episode might finally be enough to bounce him from office.
But, the fact is Lindsey Graham will likely be re-elected in 2014 to a third term as the senior Senator from South Carolina.
Paul was holding up the nomination of John Brennan for CIA chief by protesting the Obama Administration’s policy on drones, a policy that Graham supports. The crux of Paul’s argument was based on the fear that Obama might have the power to use drones against American citizens on American soil. Attorney General Eric Holder told Paul that the President has no such authority, but Paul continued his filibuster anyway.
The issue here is not drones or whether Graham is right or wrong on any of the issues. It is the likelihood that this episode puts Graham’s re-election in doubt.
It doesn’t.
Critics to the right of Graham are not new. Tea Party types have been unhappy with him since word leaked in 2009 that he was working on climate change legislation with then-Sen. John Kerry of Massachusetts.
Graham’s willingness to avoid a sequester or the fiscal cliff or other financial doom by closing tax loopholes and means-testing for Social Security, hasn’t served him well with some members of his own party.
But loudness of dissent does not equal a loss in a primary.
Last month, Winthrop University published a poll that showed Graham with an approval/disapproval rating of 71.6/17.4 among Republicans. Among all voters it was 58.4/41.6. Those poll numbers came out after the Club For Growth named Graham its top target in 2014.
Even if those numbers have moved a few points against Graham they are still extremely strong. Incumbents with that kind of favorability simply don’t lose elections. The only way they do is if there is scandal. And scandals can happen. Just ask Robert Menendez in New Jersey, who was thought to be close to invulnerable. But counting on a scandal to unseat an incumbent is not much of a strategy.
And one other fact to keep in mind: no South Carolina Senator who served a full term has lost a re-election campaign since Coleman Bease in 1930.
Being the incumbent is not a small advantage, chiefly when it comes to raising money, something that Graham is very good at. Before he’s even officially declared that he’ll seek re-election Graham has at least $4.4 million in his campaign coffers.
But numbers next to dollar signs aren’t the only kind of figures that make Graham’s re-election likely. Polling data on the Tea Party is also overwhelmingly in Graham’s favor.
Among Republicans and right-leaning independents in South Carolina, the Tea Party has a 48 percent favorability rating, according to the aforementioned Winthrop poll. Tea Party members are those most likely to vote against Graham in a primary. Even if all the people sympathetic to the Tea Party voted in a bloc—a dicey proposition—that still doesn’t get a challenger to Graham over 50 percent.
But, let’s say Graham’s Republican opponents somehow did cobble together a coalition to knock him off in a primary, the person they nominate would then go into a general election with a serious mountain to climb. Consider, that in that same Winthrop poll, the Tea Party has a favorability rating among all South Carolina voters of 26.5/37.9.
For the GOP to nominate a Tea Party candidate would put the seat in peril. The Democratic Party would immediately deem the seat as “in play” and a flood of money would come into the state.
Leading Republicans have made it abundantly clear they are tired of losing seats that are winnable. Yes, the Tea Party has yielded Rand Paul, Ted Cruz of Texas and Mike Lee of Utah, among others. But, those seats were reliably Republican anyway. Extreme right candidates like Sharron Angle, Christine O’Donnell, Richard Mourdock and Todd Akin cost the party seats that were held by a Democrat in Nevada, Delaware, Indiana and Missouri, respectively.
The idea of a Democrat winning a Senate seat in South Carolina would send shivers up the spine of the national GOP, which would result in donations by the bucket load to Graham. It’s one thing to lose a winnable seat. It’s quite another to give away a seat you’ve held for decades.
Does this mean Graham can put it an auto-pilot?
No. But the most frequently named challengers--state Sen. Tom Davis of Beaufort or Lee Bright of Spartanburg—pose little threat.
Davis has almost no name recognition outside of the Lowcountry and Bright has very little outside of the Upstate. Furthermore, Davis told Patch he will serve out his term and not seek higher office. He could always change his mind.
Bright seems more certain to challenge Graham. Whether it’s him, Davis or some other member of the General Assembly, the barriers to victory will be substantial.
There are probably three people in the state of South Carolina who could beat Graham in a Republican primary—Rep. Trey Gowdy (R-4), Rep. Mick Mulvaney (R-5) and former Gov. Mark Sanford, who is in the process of trying to win a House seat in District 1. The most likely of those to seriously consider a run against Graham is Mulvaney. To take on Graham would be a challenge to the status quo, something he has already shown a willingness to do. But it could make his House seat vulnerable. Prior to Mulvaney winning the District 5 seat in 2010, it was in Democratic hands for more than 125 years. Getting it back would not be an insurmountable task.
It's just another sign that points to a Graham victory in 2014 and in comfortable fashion.
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Karen Martin
10:46 pm on Sunday, March 10, 2013
How many stories are you going to write citing that Winthrop poll? This is about the 38th.
Shawn Drury
10:54 pm on Sunday, March 10, 2013
The February poll? This is the second. The first was about the poll itself.
Bill Bledsoe
11:57 am on Tuesday, March 26, 2013
RINO-Nazi Graham defeated himself. Senator Lee Bright has a statewide following after his Constitutional Carrying Hearings.
The Democratic Nazi party, under Nazi George Soros, is the only funding Graham had and they have totally turned against Graham.
The Nazis are alive and well in the Democratic-Nazi Party, the Rino-Nazi Party and the George Soros Troll-Nazis.
The Nazis all follow Hitler's plan which is:
1) take the Guns away from one group at a time
2) take the Civil Rights away from one group at a time
3) counterfeit money and dump it on the country to get economic collapse.
Nazi Graham is following the Nazi Play Book:
1) Mental Health Legislation to take citizens Civil Rights
2) Mental Health Legislation to prevent gun ownership of a group
3) Supporting Drones which have assassinated five Americans without an arrest, a trial, a judge or jury
4) Supporting ObamaCare which takes away numerous Civil Rights like:
a) Right to life with euthanasia, mercy killing and abortions
b) Freedom of Religion with abortion, birth control and euthanasia
c) Right from Search and Seizure is taken away with Mandatory Home Inspections
d) gun confiscation through mandatory mental health exams
5) Counterfeiting in foreign countries by telling Americans we've borrowed $16.7 Trillion US Dollars when there are only $9.2 Trillion US Dollars printed and circulating in the entire world.
NO, NAZI GRAHAM DEFEATED HIMSELF AND THE OTHER NAZIS TURNED AGAINST HIM.
Mimi
12:46 am on Monday, March 11, 2013
Now this is assuming that South Carolina has fair elections. I would factor in that once the sequester and government cuts take effect in South Carolina who certainly take in more Federal money than they pay in, on top of the fact that unemployment is still high, cost of living is going up, wages are going down, property values going down, taxes increasing. I think that Mr. Graham is going to have more problems than the Tpublicans. I think he is going to have to answer for his contribution to supporting the radical agenda of the tpers instead of looking out for his own state. When the day comes he is more worries about his job then the jobs of the voters I believe he is in for a rude awakening. The only hope for him is that another Ted Cruz, Rand Paul runs against him. If the Democrats have a viable candidate they will win. Shawn I am willing to put money on my prediction.
Shawn Drury
9:31 am on Monday, March 11, 2013
Mimi, Which part of the "radical agenda" does Graham support?
Mimi
3:41 pm on Tuesday, March 12, 2013
Paul Ryan Budget for one, give to the rich at the expense of the poor every single out of the main stream nonsense that has been spewed for the last 3 years Graham follows along like a little sheep.
Ken
4:24 am on Monday, March 11, 2013
Lindsey Graham is a perfect example of why we need term limits for ALL elected officials.
Betty Dowling
11:55 am on Tuesday, March 12, 2013
Term limits means seniority is not valuable...this is foreign to me...Could be because I am a SENIOR...rather old one at that. But when folks say to me they [Congress] all need to go....I always think....Man...".I would not want to go to Walmart everyone working there was a NEWBIE"...so I surely would not want everyone in Congress to be new....In politics I always make my decision based on my choices and right now...Lindsey Graham is my only choice...You all need to find your candidate and write your check...the anybody but Graham will not fly with me or most folks..
stanley seigler
4:47 pm on Tuesday, March 12, 2013
term limits tried in CA...didntb work that well...being re thought...
BTW CA back on track (w/ DEMs now in control)...burget surpluses...and guess what there were tax increases...happy days are here again...
Tom Utley
9:22 am on Monday, March 11, 2013
I think he'll lose, at least I hope he will.
Addison
10:09 am on Monday, March 11, 2013
Graham is only vulnerable if, and when, the voters look at him in his capacity as Senator and then evaluate the potential against what he has actually accomplished, or even attempted to accomplish. As voters and constituents, we should be able to ask what his position is on any subject, how he voted on any bill, what steps he has taken to address any problem (or if he even considers it a problem), and what plans he has for change that will improve the future for both SC and the country. Send the good Senator a question or comment based on any of the above and what you will receive is a pablum soaked response thanking you for your interest and proiding absolutely no insight into what he believes, how he votes or what, if anything, he plans on doing while taking up space in the Senator's chair. It isn't about whether he is left or right, but rather whether he is even involved at any level.
Shawn Drury
10:44 am on Monday, March 11, 2013
Addison, That kind of sober thinking and rationality is not welcome on political message boards.
Kidding!
Thanks for sharing.
-SD
jack
12:48 pm on Monday, March 11, 2013
Senator Graham will probably get re-elected but it will be hard to find anyone that will admit to voting for him.
Elizabeth Kelley Fann
1:21 pm on Monday, March 11, 2013
Agree with Addison. I have a stack of form letters from Graham. Graham will not have my vote.
Did someone say Tom Davis? ;)
Shawn Drury
2:54 pm on Monday, March 11, 2013
Elizabeth,
As per story, Sen. Davis has indicated he's not running.
-Shawn
Elizabeth Kelley Fann
7:25 am on Tuesday, March 12, 2013
Last I read, yesterday, he is reconsidering.
Tom Bess
2:19 pm on Monday, March 11, 2013
He has been rubbing shoulder with McCain for too long, and now he is contaminated by the same illness: wackinitis.
5 War Veteran
3:26 pm on Monday, March 11, 2013
What part of Lindsay Graham is in the pockets of the Elite is difficult to understand?
Which part of he does not support the majority is hard to understand?
What part of allowing more immigrants and giving amnesty to the illegals into the USA is hard to understand?
What part of the dozens of form letters we receive from him that never discuss the facts and only skirt around the issues is so hard to understand?
Been writing that elitist whack for years now.
He is still in office either because voters cannot tell a dead incumbent's name from a live one.
Lindsay and his DC cronies are selling your rights to the Elite as they destroy the Constitution.
I doubt he knows which end of a shotgun is dangerous and would fear he would pull a "Cheny" if I went hunting with him.
Like most politicians he says one thing and only does what his handlers tell him to.
One day in office and a lifetime of pension, for what?
He does not support the people. What part of a 74% majority is not being followed and who still has him following the leftist liberal agenda?
Wealth redistribution? Whose wealth?
Patrick Riordan
2:45 am on Tuesday, March 12, 2013
The reason he will get reelected is because he has an R after his name and the voters of South Carolina will vote for a BRICK if it has an R after it's name. That is why the legislature keeps the education system on a starvation budget. They don't want an educated populace. People might figure out what a bunch of wastes the Republican Party have been running for our so called government
Judity
4:20 pm on Monday, March 11, 2013
I too have a stack of form letters from Sen . Graham,stating absolutely nothing !
5 War Veteran
5:37 pm on Monday, March 11, 2013
I expect that one day they will be valuable as kindling. A great way to waste valuable taxpayer money.
I got a good one form Barry O about how he is going to improve the illegal immigration issue. Yes, improve it for illegal immigrants,
Has anyone besides myself actually read his book?
How he wants to render the USA a third world country of people living in metal and trash shanties like his childhood home in Kenya. Really! I mean it read the book!
Wish we could post pictures here!
http://www.endtimesroundtable.com/ETRT/viewtopic.php?f=23&t=17399&p=128228 look down the page and remember this was written then he was in Harvard.
Which indicates that Harvard has no value either.
stanley seigler
5:42 pm on Monday, March 11, 2013
someoldsame-S: a condescending, pat on the head...from graham, etal...they should get a new stick...there are few exceptions...believe one was mentioned here...cant recall who (which leg) it was...
stanley seigler
6:10 pm on Monday, March 11, 2013
re: Harvard has no value either
the links (little if any of their statements would pass a factchk) 5 quotes does much to discredit his positions...ie, 5WV's opine has no value if he continues to base his opines on his link's lies...
it's unbelievable 5, or anyone, would believe the crap in the links he/she quotes...prove me wrong someone...prove me wrong...provide just ONE statement from 5's link that will pass a factchk...
perhaps if he/she would post under his/her name it would give a smidgeon of creditable to his/her post...but bet she/he wont...
Shawn Drury
8:45 pm on Monday, March 11, 2013
5 War Veteran - Your comments were removed for violation of our terms of use. No profanity.
stanley seigler
9:29 pm on Monday, March 11, 2013
@5
delete 'fanities' and repost...i look forward to and enjoy yo straights lines...and maybe one day you will reveal who you are and the FBI can chk yo military record...'in the mean time, in between time ... aint we got fun'...
stanley seigler
9:49 pm on Monday, March 11, 2013
PS
profanities add ZIP to a debate/discussion...only discredit the 'cusser'...clean up yo act and regain some modicum of creditability...
5 War Veteran
9:50 pm on Monday, March 11, 2013
That is perfectly acceptable Shawn.
5 War Veteran
9:46 pm on Monday, March 11, 2013
Hey Stanley You got my goat! My name is Daniel Wiberg I live in Goose Creek.
Since your are such a bad ass how about meeting me in public. You are such a big mouth how about you choose the place. I will bring my retirement shadow box and my DD214. All you gotta bring is that big mouth.
Put up or shut up.
BTW boy what are your qualifications?
stanley seigler
11:45 pm on Monday, March 11, 2013
didn't know 5 had a goat...but it was easy to 'git' it...
as myself, a red neck, it sounds (5's put up) is a physical challenge...is he suggesting swords, guns...or a discussion of the issues...in any event;
5's comments are a GOP-SOP, grade school, response...that T-GOPs use when they have NO facts to back their dumbA, rush/ann/fox, opines...
suggest, for a 'fair/balanced', position: 5 (etal) read some liberal rags...one may disagree w/ their conclusions...but fact are facts...
knowledge trumps bs...except maybe in my beloved SC.
PS hope in the future 5 will post as Daniel Wiberg ...
PPS just wondering is 5 (aka wiberg) a native red neck or a carpetbagger redneck...
seems carpetbaggers are more extreme than natives...eg, chas mayor riley not as extreme as 5...
5 War Veteran
12:19 am on Tuesday, March 12, 2013
You know Stan you are an amazing individual. Since I will not be using foul language out of respect for the restrictions of the patch. I will be forced to use larger words, if you have difficulty I apologize.
I was born In Pennsylvania and grew up in Alaska. So much for the redneck thing. However I have embraced South Carolina and have lived here for more than 20 years. My children were born in late 70's Georgia during my first tour in the 5th Combat Communications Group out of Warner Robins.
Suppose you have something to say about that too?
You still have yet to prove yourself. Nothing but words. Now how about that FBI check?
How about that choice of locations? Please bring friends so you do not have a reason to fear some mean old guy in a wheel chair and so there are witnesses to your apologies. Make sure it is public.
Mind If I video tape the event? Might make an enjoyable YouTube video.
I hope you enjoy the taste of crow.
Or does the concept of Put Up or Shut Up evade your ability in understanding?
Your disrespect for the military is quite obvious. I wonder why that is?
Other than being an irritating individual. I am sure you are surrounded by friends and supporters.
Or in all your talk are you above proving yourself once and for all?
Perhaps we can get past this?
Oh and by the way I will always use 5 War Veteran because I am one.
Something I earned.
stanley seigler
1:46 pm on Tuesday, March 12, 2013
@Daniel Wiberg [DW]
you know DW, you do ramble on and on and...with grammar school innuendoes...
i may have problem with 'large words'... but forsure have mega problem with DM's illogical, 'true believer', hyperbole (aka bs)...but sadly for now have nothing better to do...soo will address some of his (mis-)statements:
re: something to say about that...
only to say i am familiar with locations DW mentions...my first job out of school was at warner robins AF base...and i worked on the alyeska pipeline in prudhoe bay, AK...and of course grew up in sville...
re: So much for the redneck thing
rednecks not unique to the south...ie/eg, T-GOPs who wear guns to rallies/demonstrations; NRA sheep who want crazies to have easy access to WMD; and rednecks in PA (kochbro lemmings) who pass voter suppression (jim crow) laws...
re: Your [stanley's] disrespect for the military is quite obvious.
painfully obvious NOT obvious to DW...i respect the military and have hi regard for combat vets...i have little respect/regard for those who only 'claim' to be war vets...but do have compassion for them as they need help.
i have neither known nor know any real war vets (some close friends) who wanted to advertised they were combat vets...
re: How about that choice of locations?
will meet DW halfway...say st louis, MO...i am currently in LA (lalaland)...all seriousness aside...i would not meet with DW if i lived next door...i have nothing to prove...
Elizabeth Kelley Fann
8:12 pm on Tuesday, March 12, 2013
Wow. Stanley, you are fabulous at diverting a thread.
5 War, just ignore him. We are here to discuss replacing SC's worn out RINO.
Tom Davis is considering running, as is Bruce Carroll and possibly Nancy Mace. I believe I am supporting Tom, he's closest to my Libertarian views. I hope a lot of people will begin studying libertarianism before next year and take an interest in politics in general. At least find your core views, it will help you feel more confident about your vote. I consider platform first, issues second, because in theory that should help you understand how your chosen candidate will represent you long term. So many people get distracted by issues and vote for whoever is loudest about what they care about, but that is why our country is in such a mess right now.
Research a little. Because the alternative is watching the liberal msm, or letting people like Stanley fill your ears with how awesome the Democratic Party is. Yikes.
stanley seigler
10:42 pm on Tuesday, March 12, 2013
yikes, wow, goodness gracious, holy cow...stanley didnt start the fire...ie
stanley didn't divert! it was diverted by guess who?...this posted by guess who before stanley commented:
'Has anyone besides myself [wiberg aka 5] actually read his [BO's] book? How he wants to render the USA a third world country of people living in metal and trash shanties like his childhood home in Kenya. Really!http://www.endtimesroundtable.com/ETRT/viewtopic.php?f=23&t=17399&p=128228 look down the page and remember this was written then he was in Harvard. Which indicates that Harvard has no value either.
and this relates to the thread: HOW?
fyi reminder, the thread: Lindsey Graham Not As Vulnerable As Some Think
and does anyone believe BO 'wants to render the USA a third world country of people living in metal and trash shanties like his childhood home in Kenya. Really!'
impossible to believe a real vet would spew this bs...and show similar disrespect, on other threads, for america's president...the commander-in chief...thus my questioning wiberg-5 being a combat vet.
lies...any reasonable intelligent person (and most morons) know BO's childhood home was NOT, WAS NOT, kenya...
wiberg-5 does his service and country a disservice with such bs...
Robert Kelly
11:09 pm on Tuesday, March 12, 2013
Stanley,
Keep in mind 5WV is 140% disabled, according to his profile. I don't know how that works (being more than 100% disabled), but I am a math/science person, not a veteran, so I don't question it. I would have to assume that it must indicate some mental deterioration on top of physical disability to be more than 100% disabled, so the non-sensical rants about making he USA like Kenya with trash and metal shacks etc. makes sense to him and is directly related to Lindsey Graham's support for that alien POTUS. All gave some, 5WV gave all, and then 40% more. Let's give him the respect he has earned, and assume there is a deep-seated reason behind his unmitigated hate for complete strangers.
stanley seigler
12:21 am on Wednesday, March 13, 2013
@Robert Kelly
thanks for pointing out my lack of understanding...i will try to keep this in mind in the future...and not call folks on their obvious bs...
but dont you/we have to stop the bs; that so many spew and dont have the possible excuse wiberg-5, etals, have...to whom do we cut some slack in responding to their posts...
believe josch said re my comment, 'dont argue with idiots...etc': you have call them out...sumthin like that...
my purpose here is to get facts on the table...
Betty Dowling
11:47 am on Tuesday, March 12, 2013
My dad always said "when you meet a fact...salute it"...thanks for the facts
5 War Veteran
8:28 pm on Tuesday, March 12, 2013
Thank you Elisabeth!
I did a favor for Stan. I uploaded a couple of photos to my profile. One is my military ID the other is my retirement shadow box. Not that they matter that much to dear old disrespectful Stanley the man who apparently knows everything about everyone and assumes nothing at all.
I guess we do not have to meet after all. Just had to figure out how and where to up load photos to the Patch.
Elizabeth Kelley Fann
9:22 pm on Tuesday, March 12, 2013
Wow - very impressive. Thank you for your service, and your continued service now using your voice to fight for all our rights :). I will even fight for Stanley's right to be liberal, as long as he stays out of my pocket.
Liberty is rising. The cronyism has peaked and the corrupt members of the GOP are eating their last steak dinners on our dime. And haters just confirm that's true. Hope Graham enjoys his last term.
And those letters do make good, therapeutic kindling :). But I will continue to bug him, and make it known that I tried. I'm such a silly wacko bird. Ha.
5 War Veteran
9:52 pm on Tuesday, March 12, 2013
Thank You Elisabeth, i appreciate it. So many of my friends did not come home. It is for them that I do not display my Purple Heart. They earned it and for many that was the only medal their families received.
I will continue also to write Lindsey as well as our other politicians and continue to hope it may make a difference.
stanley seigler
7:44 am on Wednesday, March 13, 2013
re: I will even fight for Stanley's right to be liberal, as long as he stays out of my pocket. [ekf]
thanks and,
stanley will even fight for ekf's right to be a GOP, as long as she stays out of women's reproductive system...
efk certainly has right to be a conservative...ie;
'...seek to preserve things as they are, emphasizing stability and continuity, oppose modernism and seek a return to the way things were. (wikipedia definition, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Conservatism)
return to those thrilling days of yesteryear...return to:
NO social security, NO medicare, NO BO-care (affordable healthcare); NO women's choice, NO minimum wage, NO gun control (let crazies have free access to WMD), NO adequate funding for the country's general welfare (infrastructure, education, social services), NO vibrant middle class, etcetcetc...
keep things the way they are, eg/ie:
keep the great 1% to 99% divide...keep costly ER health care...keep america's health care cost the highest of most all nations...keep 30-40 million folks un-insured...keep subsidies and loopholes for big oil and rich folks, etal...keep taxes low for the 1%...keep polluting our air...
indeed ekf has the right to be conservative…but could ekf (anyone) explain WHY?? in any event, i will fight for ekf’s right to be...well what can i say... 'a silly wacko bird. Ha'
Kat Johnson
10:53 pm on Tuesday, March 12, 2013
Tom Davis has said emphatically that he isn't running. FITS News floated a little head fake, but don't be fooled. That was just to keep competition away in case their mutual friend Nancy Mace decides to run. I hope we have a good challenger though, Lindsey needs to go.
Elizabeth Kelley Fann
11:03 pm on Tuesday, March 12, 2013
Boo. Thought I'd read it in a couple places, but I must be mistaken. Wonder what he's going to do with all this support? I totally get why he would want to stay here, I would too. So hard to be impactful in Washington
Thanks Kat. How do you feel about Lee Bright?
Kat Johnson
11:47 am on Wednesday, March 13, 2013
After Lee Bright proposed that SC coin it's own currency, I think he obliterated any chance of being elected outside his district. He just won't have broad enough appeal IMHO. Btw, you are right that Tom Davis was being talked about, but he stated about a month ago that he wouldn't run.
Shawn Drury
11:18 pm on Tuesday, March 12, 2013
Kat and Elizabeth,
What exactly makes you think Lee Bright (or Tom Davis) can beat Sen. Graham, given the facts that have been laid out in this article?
-SD
Tommy Higgs
11:50 am on Wednesday, March 13, 2013
I don't know that either of them can beat Graham but I sure hope someone who can win is located and runs. Graham is a disgrace. Have you looked at his own post where he advocates using the Military Code of Justice on American Civilians ? There is a world of difference. Civilians are protected by the US Constitution, not the Military Code of Justice or Conduct. As for the above referenced survey, it is a little aged and needs to be updated. I do not believe that Graham is even close to that level of support as of today. I deem myself to be an Independent but seemed to have voted Republican for the last 40 years. I can not envision any set of circumstances wherein I would support Senator Graham (RINO- SC).
Kat Johnson
12:26 pm on Wednesday, March 13, 2013
I don't think for a minute that Lee Bright could beat Lindsey because I don't think he has appeal outside of his district. I also don't think Tom Davis could have beaten him after he started quoting Mises and pandering to the Ron Paul crowd. He moved himself into the semi-fringe category because while a lot of people don't like Lindsey, they aren't looking for a Ron Paul clone either. He just didn't seem to catch on with people - sorry to say charisma is needed, but it's human nature to want to like the person you vote for.
5 War Veteran
12:09 am on Wednesday, March 13, 2013
Nice try Robert Kelly, but math has nothing to do with the way the VA calculates disability.
Every malady counts separately as a percentage.
The percentages of disability add up and overlap, One can only receive 100% in disability compensation even though the totals can rise well above 100%
Examples: Spinal cord damage 45%, Loss of creative organ 30%.
Loss of hearing one ear 20%. Partial loss of hearing other ear 10%, Permanent sinus damage 15%. Hemiplegia (loss of sensation in extremities) 25%. Hernia 15%. Tumor left shoulder 15% removal left collar bone 20%
The values are determined by medical boards. If a condition worsens the percentage value increase the increase determines additional assistance provided. Housing modifications, at some time in the future I will end up needing a full time caregiver. Someone to help me get into and out of the shower clean the home as well as cook meals.
Unless one has been to war one cannot know war nor can they understand the toll it takes on a body. Most will never understand what disabled veterans go through unless they are caregivers or disabled themselves.
When it comes to disability I try not let things I cannot change bother me.
I was force retired in 1996, I would have stayed in if I could have,
When it come to making the USA like Kenya read his book.
"Dreams from My Father: A Story of Race and Inheritance" Then make a comment about that.
stanley seigler
12:49 am on Wednesday, March 13, 2013
@Elizabeth Kelley Fann [ekf]
'Wow. Stanley, you are fabulous at diverting a thread.' [efk]
WOW someone else is even more FABULOUS at diverting a thread...guess who...eg;
re: math has nothing to do with the way the VA calculates disability...Every malady counts separately as a percentage [wiberg-5]
or perhaps ekf can explain what this has to do with: 'Lindsey Graham Not As Vulnerable As Some Think'
bet NOT at 10 to 1..
stanley seigler
1:22 am on Wednesday, March 13, 2013
re: When it come to making the USA like Kenya read his book. [5-wiberg]
read and found NOTHING that would lead anyone to believe BO wants to: 'render the USA a third world country of people living in metal and trash shanties'...
perhaps 5-wiberg could provide excerpts that lead to his bs conclusions...
would be interesting to see some references...i doubt 5-wiberg has read the book...
5 War Veteran
11:33 am on Wednesday, March 13, 2013
Stanley, it is obvious, you have not read the book. Instead you prefer slandering me. I have made all attempts to prove myself Even unto explaining VA rating decisions. Providing you an education.
However you still continue. What is your problem? You made an assumption, got on your band wagon, I provided proof including my military ID. What about those accusations? What about the level of disrespect? You say you honor veterans, I provide proof and you continue? I suppose now I have to provide the book too?
What kind of man are you? You have no honor.
Are you aware that every post I have made is still available to read on the patch?
You have made up some statements concerning me, Presented them in YOUR twisted fashion, used your twisted untruths to slander me and this is supposed to be OK?
You do not know my life, you do not know my experience, you make things up. At what point does anything you provide from now on have value?
I have all the papers, certificates, medals and everything else to prove myself and you have nothing but your mouth and you do not have the fortitude to be a stand up guy and meet me in person in a place of your choosing.
What does that make you?
reg
12:03 pm on Wednesday, March 13, 2013
Bright is rather DIM. This is the guy who told media "if at first you don't secede, try try again!"
All these complaints about Graham's letters? Don't get me wrong, I don't like the guy. But he responds to letters and other messages like a representative is supposed to do. Shoot, DeMint wouldn't *accept* messages until he caught flak from Senate for refusing them. Don't complain if he's replying to constituents like he's supposed to do.
reg
12:08 pm on Wednesday, March 13, 2013
The founder of the GLBT "GOProud" organization is considering running against Graham - http://thehill.com/blogs/ballot-box/senate-races/287323-goproud-founder-seriously-considering-challenge-to-lindsey-graham
jack
7:42 pm on Monday, March 18, 2013
Just when I thought that nothing could be more undesirable than Lindsey Graham, I have read somewhere that Idiot Lee Bright might run for the U S Senate of Graham. We all need to be in prayer that it does not happen!!!